JOS WERNERS (US)
DATE: 2004 OCTOBER 2ND |
PLACE: E-mail |
WEBSITE: US official |
Ok
Jos, the US story has begun about 29 years ago. It seems incredible you
recorded only two albums since 1975.
Yes, there has been quite some water under the bridge.
Disappointment is one thing and the spirit to carry on is another. Eventually
the fire was still, there it only needed to get some fresh oxigene. When
considering we started a new about four years ago, three cd's ("The
Ghost of Human Kindness" will be out in november) ain't bad? You are
forgetting our LP "A Sorrow In Our Hearts" that came out in 79.
So that's 3 out now and the next "The Ghost…" to come is
4.
Please,
satisfy my curiosity: what Eagles and Peter Frampton covers did you play
at the beginning?
We played a lot in the seventies, from "Lying
Eyes" (Eagles) and almost the whole of "Frampton Comes Alive",
till "Never Comes The Day" and even our own versions of "I
Am A Man" and "Make Me Smile" (Chicago). When we were young
we had a single out, but that did not work well.
When did you exactly find progressive rock music and realized you
would have played it in the future ?
That started at the early stages. We were there when it all started. Early
Moody Blues when they were still good, but soon followed with Yes and Genesis.
Also early Gino Vanelli. That kind of music still has it all for me. I think
that Prog in its whole complexity is the ultimate musical expression. It
is a combination of lyrics and music that says it all for me. Of course
there is a lot of other goods things going on, but in my heart prog (or
sympho as it was called in the past) has it all. Infact it is a strange
thing with prog. If you consider that every semi-modern critic always says
it is outdated, they are in fact repeating what was said in the the early
seventies. Even than some people had to say if was outdated. Genesis and
Yes were Dinosaurs in 74 and 75. Strange, do you ever hear this about Elvis,
or soul or Reggae? That has not changed? Also this constant nonsense about
living rock and roll? As if you can only make good music if you are on dope
and alcohol all the time. I think that is in fact the problem with prog.
These guys live normal lives, no fuzz, no frontlines, just musicians who
love what they are doing.
Which are the bands you are mostly influenced from ?
Obviously Genesis and Yes, But like I said, early Moodies also, a song as
"Never Comes The Day" or the whole piece "To Our Children's
Children" is a milestone on its own. Later came Spock's Beard and Flower
Kings. Marillion: I sometimes like and sometimes I don't, but I welcome
their own specific approach to the whole concept. England ("Garden
Shed") who made only one memorable cd I value also very much. These
guys were very good. It is a pity that that kind of talent gets lost whilst
so many other pieces of nothing get known all over the world. But I guess
that's the tragic destiny of prog. You won't get rich making that kind of
music. All in all I must say that is maybe for the better because look what
has happened to Genesis when they started filling up football-stadions!
I saw "The Musical Box" this year, that kind of shows what we
are missing now a days.
Ok, let's talk about your official first album "A Sorrow In
Our Hearts": I listened to it after "Eamon's Day" and I must
honestly say that it's not as good. The recording is quite poor, music is
more derivative even if there are some good ideas. Songs like "The
Acid Dream" and the title-track are really good tracks ….Which
songs from "A Sorrow.." are included in your gig set-list ??
Well I agree with you about the technical part, but I like the songs very
much. In fact they deserve a better setting. Maybe someday we re-record
it, then it will get the input it deserves! We will play next year at Spirit
of Verviers and will include "A Sorrow In Our Hearts" and "Magonia"
on the setlist.
On the contrary, "Eamon's Day" is really special for me.
All the songs are built on good ideas and played with a refined sense of
music. What about the feedback you received from fans and critics ??
Feedback was extremely good. We only got one ' not
so good' one from Dutch Progessive Rock Page, but except for that all reviews
have been good to extremely good. Infact we have been much better received
outside of Holland than inside of Holland. I do not know why, but I guess
that is the way things are. For now we have our second batch of Eamon's
day out, which is not bad for an independant band like US.
Jos, you wrote all the songs and play bass and acoustic guitar.
In most of the songs bass guitar is always in the foreground and acoustic
guitar often rules the game. Is it only a coincidence ?? What about the
songwriting process ?
No, I don't think it is a coincidence. I think that
is because it is a natural aspect of my writing. Further more bass is a
very important instrument in prog. Look at Spock's Beard and Flower Kings.
Your favourite bass players ?
Chris Squire should be thanked for what he has done
for modern bass-playing. Dave Meros is very good and I also like (who does
not??) the Flower Kings guy.
I'm
also impressed with the vocal performance of your new singer Stephan Christiaans.
Can you tell me more about him ? He's so young ….
Yes, he is good, ain't he? We like him also very much.
Young? Well he is his early 30's so that ain't particulary young, I guess
we are getting old!
In
the last few years I have noticed Dutch progressive scene has been growing
more and more: what do you think about it ?
Yes, good things are happening, but I dont think we
are getting much contribution from that.It is still a very small scene.
It ain't hardly possible to fill a small type gig so we are all struggling.
Because we do not have a record company you can cope to the advantage that
others have. Our situation is very difficult. We have to do everything (and
that is a lot of work!) ourselves, but also get our own funds to pay for
it all. We all have daytime jobs and our families, so I can tell you life
in a prog band like US ain't easy!
Do
you keep in touch with any dutch band ? What's your favourite ?
We are now getting some co-operation with Salmon and
Casual Silence to do the Dutch Prog night next year. That's good, I like these
bands and as far as I can tell now, I like their attitude.
The
future: can you tell me something about the next album ? I mean, title, release
date, style …
"The Ghost of Human Kindness" is close to
being finished. It will be out in November. We had 6 songs but had to skip
one, because we had no space left on the disc. Now it is about 5 songs about
close to 70 minutes. I think it is very good, better than Eamon's Day and
progressive as it should be. It kind of stresses the time we are living in.
Not much love left in this world, I guess. Hate and fundamentalism are basically
the headlines now a days. This empty society of modern age is not what I fancy
very much. We are living in the age of me, myself and I and that does not
bring the best of mankind. If I look at for instance MTV I hardly hear anything
worth while and I only see images of a world I dont like. It ain't about music
anymore but about images.
Thank
you very much for this interview and congratulations for "Eamon's Day".
I'm looking forward to listening to the new album.
Thanks for giving this opportunity, I hope I don't sound
to somber! Stay well !!
Luca Alberici